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BJD74
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Posted: 31 October 2009 06:39 pm |
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hello! i posted this in an old thread from 08, but i thought i would start a new thread to see if anyone can join in my quest to overcome post dinner eating....it seems to be my latest and worst habit that i can see if defeating my efforts to lose. :(
i am an at home busy mom with a 4 yr old, 4 dogs and 2 horses. i do have down time, but i always get in a hard workout, usually a walking interval workout that is at least 2.5 miles all the way up to 5 or 7 on the high calorie days. I keep a food diary at livestrong.com and I do count my calories as my way of dieting. I have lost about 30 pds since i started this challenge for myself almost a year ago Thanksgiving. I started at 196 and am currently at 159-162 depending on my calories that day. I am also addicted to weighing in daily, usually in the morning after a BM...but not always...I am deciding to not weigh in daily, I just put the scale on the shelf in the laundry room closet to keep it away from me. I am in the winter challenge as well, and will weigh in fridays.
My problem is becoming late nite or just evening snacking. I can do great all day, most days and right after dinner I just eat eat eat eat and eat more.......I can have a great low day, then blow away like 600-1000 extra calories in the evening, just between like 6 and 10pm! Its crazy, its out of control, its disturbing my moods and making me an emotional freak. I dont always have hunger pains, its more the seeing my husband dive into his ice cream, or cereal, or chips or whatever he feels like having...some days i can resist eating too, but other days i cant handle it and i eat too. I made myself a nothing after 9pm rule, but i sure manage to get in as much as possible between 7-859! Its awful and its depressing me. My hubby gets upset because I am eating it, then beating myself up afterwards, logging it into the book, the diary and complaining about the fact that i couldnt behave. Its terrible and its hurting me, and my relationship. I dont know how to stop it. I am an emotional eater, I am a stress eater, I am a depressed eater, whenever i get upset food is usually where i go, except I just dont know how to stop.
In the last few weeks, my total intake has been up in the 2000 plus at the end of the day. To maintain i should be no more than 1600-1700 before any exercise...so you can see how my 400-600 calories burned in my exercise routines will end me up in the correct numbers but i dont want to be there. I need to be in the 1600-1700 at the end of the day with the 400-600 taking away from that, but honestly i cant seem to stop. Any stress trigger sets me off, and comment, or something that i can take wrong sets me off. I am scared that i cant get control of it.
I have read online some tips. I want to get around this and succeed and with the holidays i am scared to think i will stress over whether we spend time with my family, how i will get him to agree to going along and how i will avoid eating the high calorie junk that i know i dont need and honestly dont even enjoy that much. I just eat it because something in my brain tells me i need to do it, its like a robot. I sit in the kitchen and eating in silence tryin not to be seen. Its not good.
Is there anyone out there who can help?
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DaniMae1
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Posted: 1 November 2009 03:51 am |
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 I too struggle terribly with night time munchies. Take today for instance....I did good all day. Cereal in the morning, went to Chinese for a late lunch/dinner but didn't eat a whole lot there. Tonight I made homemade cookies for the family....well I couldn't resist them! I find homemade cookies to be one the best tasting treats....I ate like 5 of them! And they are peanut butter! Ugh! All those calories! 
The sad thing is that I had this problem licked for awhile. I would have coffee or sip on hot tea....let's see....yogurt. I kept plenty of yogurt in the fridge. Packs of the low sugar high fiber instant oatmeal helped. There is always 100 calorie packs of popcorn. I like creamy milk drinks too like the Carb (Calorie) Countdown milk or Over The Moon...mmmm.....so good and creamy! Oh and toast with no sugar jelly is good at night. Light bread with a little fiber of course. I am glad you posted this. Makes me want to kick my own butt! Thanks! 
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BJD74
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Posted: 1 November 2009 03:27 pm |
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hey dani! :)
thanks for sharing, and i did have this kind of kicked too, but somehow i lost it again! I definately noticed it this month because my wt went up from the beginning of oct to the end... :( and i was really working out daily! :( but its a new month and last nite instead of munching, we made baileys and milk beverages and i didnt eat anything...of course, after the 4th one i regretted it deeply and went to bed feeling kinda sick. :( with the meds i take, drinking needs to be a minimum and i didnt realize i felt funny till i had already had the 4th. They were just small wine glasses, maybe a 4-5oz glass, and it was coffee, baileys and a little mudslide, quite tasty and easy!
anyhoo........i digress, but really it kept me from snacking. :) i dont do it alot, and i surely dont want to do it alot now.....i just cant ever guage when to stop. argh...
i read yesterday that it takes 8-9 days to break the nitetime snacking habit...so last nite to me was day 1. I am going to see if this works. I am also going to work on 5-6 small meals thru the day that are higher in proteins and filling things. I also got myself some B vitamins, Green tea with hoodia and cinnamon vitamins. The B will help with any deficiency that my body has that may cause salty cravings, the green tea with hoodia will help to burn my stored fat and thermogenically heat me up per se' and then i got the cinnamon to help with sugar absorbtion because i do have polycystic ovarian syndrome, which kinda messes my body up in regards to properly breaking down the sugars.
i am going to try this for the next two weeks and see how it goes!!! :)
what are you gonna try? :)
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tourproven
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Posted: 1 November 2009 03:54 pm |
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I also have troubles with this same subject. The are a few things that are currently keeping me from ruining my great days at nighttime by snacking too much:
- I eat dinner fairly late (usually 7:30 or 8) thus when 10 o'clock comes around I might have the munchie-urge, but not terrible.
- On nights when I have a terrible urge to have to eat something, I have started to make myself plain popcorn. I can eat a big bowl of it for only about 150 calories. This is not the most filling thing in the world, but it satisfies my desire to have to be eating something. Plus, with no salt and very little flavoring, it doesn't taste good enough to keep eating it.
- Some nights I will simply have a large glass of skim milk. I have found that (for me) milk is THE most filling thing you can ingest.
- If all that doesn't work...you need to think about two things: 1-how much effort you spent that day to be good on your diet, and how much you don't want to 'undo' all of that effort in some pathetic late-night binge. 2-how great you are going to feel when you wake up in the morning and KNOW that you completed yesterday perfectly and didn't give in to the snacking! Those two thoughts can be very powerful if you dwell on them at the time when you think you need to snack.
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DaniMae1
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Posted: 3 November 2009 03:28 am |
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Well BJD...I am not sure what I am going to do about the snack attacks.  I might keep the lower sugar oatmeal packs on hand. Those help with not too many calories. I need to get my willpower back! I lost about 50 pounds a few years back by exercising and only eat about 1000 calories per day. (but we'd go out to eat 1 day a week)....it worked! I put 10 back on when I stopped but have maintained in the 150ish zone for years. Ugh! Willpower....where are you???  This last 25 pounds is making me miserable.
Hey Tour....I like your number 4 there....
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BJD74
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Posted: 3 November 2009 09:48 pm |
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hey guys!
well, i am surviving the evenings for the last three nites. i have had flavored teas and voiced my wishes to be told of my doings if i should go for food. D also took responsibility for why i may be into eating later at nite...because he is always eating after dinner, sometimes 3 times! I am eating thru the day too, snacking i should say. my calories are high, but my activities have been higher too. :) trying to drink lots of water and i am using splenda on my cereal and tea. i am using regular sugar in my coffee, its my one splurge right now.
wierd not to have weighed in since saturday, scale is put away till friday. i wonder what i will see?
how are you guys doing on the snacky attacks?
i am having hard time with mounds dark chocolate snack size bars. got them sunday and am eating like 3-4 a day! ARGH! I love them. I adore them. I just want to eat them up so they are gone already....too much temptation. cant bring myself to throw away either. noone to give them too, D doesnt care for them......mj isnt even here to eat them! (and to think she will be bringing candy home from halloween on thursday.....good gracious!)
we are hosting thanksgiving this year, looks like we may have up to 12 people! WOW! I am so excited!
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DaniMae1
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Posted: 4 November 2009 12:57 pm |
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Glad to hear you had a good 3 nights BJD! Mine....not so much. Had a rice crispy treat last night. Yum. Hey at least dark chocolate is good for you! 
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VegaObscura
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Posted: 4 November 2009 02:00 pm |
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I'm alcoholic bulimic. I eat whatever I want then I drink until I throw up.
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cportwine
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Posted: 4 November 2009 03:35 pm |
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You might try exercising in the evenings. I hardly ever eat at night cause I am usually on the treadmill watching my favorite shows.
I try to eat most of my biggest meals before noon. But, I get up at 5am also. So, that might not work for you. Then I have a snack in the afternoon and call it quits. Sometimes if I am starving I will have another snack after exercising, but not usually.
Also, try to stock up on veggies and healthy stuff. I am trying to do that myself. That way if I have to eat at least it will be healthy.
ok, well good luck BJ!!!
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BJD74
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Posted: 4 November 2009 05:56 pm |
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vega, i dont know whether to laugh or to say ewww?! although, if i were to say i did anything like that, it would have been that i drink and drink without eating, then after i am loopy i eat eat eat till i get better in my head and my belly or i wolf my cookies! either way, we are in the wrong! lol.....
i wish i could drink without negative reactions, but i cant. I have 3 and i am done. Its a drag because i enjoy being able to relax and drinking helps me to forget that i have troubles....
the irony of that is people ask me what troubles? as if my troubles are just juvenile and silly. IS there any truth to my troubles being smaller or lesser or insignificant to others? arent we all entitled to have troubles, whether big or small? lol....
nothing in particular there to say, just a brain fart! lol....
last nite, i made D thin crispy pancakes with sage sausage patties. I ate them too, why go thru making another meal? argh, some days its not worth it! Then i took my bath and made a cup of mint tea. Honestly, i dont know if that works or i just wont let myself eat, but i find myself being #%@&! and snippy. Its like i need to be a bear to get thru the temptation to eat, and if i cave then i am even meaner and that isnt fair to anyone. I finally conceded to wanting to eat something (but i dont know if i was hungry or not!?)....and so i made some light popcorn.. I ate each piece one at a time and gave the rest to D at 9pm because that is my cut off time. He commented that i barely ate any.
Cport, the idea of working out at nite for me would be selfish because that is when D is home. He gets home at 6, i get dinner going, then i bathe, he bathes and then i get mj ready for bed. By 8pm she is in bed, and we start the wind down for the nite. I have nothing but time during the day to workout, hence how i sometimes get in 7 miles of walking without ever leaving the house. If the situation were different, maybe i could look into that. I would love an eliptical to workout watching tv with, but there isnt money for it, and like i said i take away from his time with me in the evenings. He likes to have my time when he comes home. Its the least i can do too since he is out there making the money and keeping our house going. Our time together is limited. At this point, too, he feels i need to relax and stop trying so hard to lose and enjoy being the size 10 i am and relax a little....so i can imagine how it would be if i were to choose to workout at nite....
That sounds negative about D, and i dont mean it too. I just mean, that all day i am here with MJ and me, and its only right to spend the evenings, the little time i have before i poop out at 930 anyway to spend some quality time with D. Our weekends are full of projects around house etc, so us time is so far and few and even then, i am usually being a butt head and grumpy over how badly i chose that day.....lol.......its hard to diet in a home where you are the only one dieting and all else can eat whatever they wish. Its hard to feel totally alone in my challenge, and i am sad that he is starting to want me to NOT be so into this whole dieting thing....i wish i could see myself as he sees me...but alas, what would i see anyway?
long story, and not sure what i really said...lol.......such is the story of my life! ;-O
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cportwine
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Posted: 4 November 2009 07:17 pm |
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Bj, I can certainly understand why you wouldn't want to work out at night. Mine is just the opposite of yours. I usually have no one here at night. Well, the hubby is, but he is outside or working on something. We don't do a whole lot together unless it's planned. (god, that sounded pathetic. But, it's true) and my kids are older doing their own thing also. So, it's not like I have to get them ready for bed or anything.
But, I remember what it was like when they were little and getting everything done and them to bed on time was quite the chore.
Ok, so with all that being said I think just you being aware of the problem will help you make better choices. Good luck!
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BJD74
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Posted: 4 November 2009 07:31 pm |
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ha ha lol...cport that is funny because we do that too..! our weekends we are often working on things together, but then sometimes we go our own ways. he sees all the time is focused on mj but i dont agree. Some days yes. Some nites yes, but not always. Its tough to try to be healthy on your own. Even MJ has begun to ask me daily if i have worked out yet? like she is used to my working out when she takes her naps in the afternoon, when she gets up, she will ask me if i did it, and she will then ask me to feel my forehead to see how sweaty i am...lol..how silly right? but its adorable that she is keeping me accountable in her own little way.
its not easy. i wouldnt mind working out in the evening, i would probably sleep better......and then, if i say that to D, he would say he knows a good way for me to get a workout at nite...lol.....but honestly sex doesnt burn any calories....not according to the charts! lol.......he is such a perve....lol...but he also respects that i dont think about sex or intimacy as much, i never have, and in truth my past relationships usually ended up being just about it, so i really dont care to have it all the time. Wierd i know, but hey, past makes us who we are in a lot of ways. :( I also take the wellbutrin and doctor told me that it could take my sex drive and lower it....oh great like i need that too? lol
not at all what we were talking about, well, it is but not really! Working out at nite, could be taken that way if one is creative. :)
it will work itself out i hope. here it is 1230 and i havent done anything!!!!!! I have been on my computer all morning but that is always better than eating and doing nothing!!!
good luck to you cport! :) are you in the winter challenge?
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shaonian
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Posted: 4 November 2009 08:58 pm |
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I find that the reason I munch at night is because I'm trying to relax after a day of work, either reading or watching TV. Both activities means I have little to do with my hands. To switch it up, I've tried exercising/stretching or knitting instead - I found if I keep my hands busy, my desire to snack drops drastically.
Other times if I want to snack, it's because I really just want to chew something. A stick of gum helps overcome that pretty well - even if there are sugar/calories to the gum, it's certainly better than snacking on a cookie or ice cream!
If all else fails, stock up on fruit/veggies so that at worst, you're munching on a banana or celery sticks.
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Nancy_in_GA
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Posted: 4 November 2009 11:55 pm |
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BJ, I know it's weird, and maybe a non-starter for you, but this usually works for me when I really need to avoid sabotaging my diet because of the evenings....
First I save about 200 calories during the day to spend after dinner. Then half of that goes to low calorie vegetables and the other 100 calories goes to something to make them palatable. (I simply cannot stand plain boiled or raw vegetables.)
Sometimes I will boil a whole head of cabbage and put it in the refrigerator. Then when I start feeling like snacks in the evening I will go fry up about 3 cups of cabbage with a little less than a tbsp of butter/margarine, whatever, in a big skillet. It makes a huge pile of stuff. Sometimes the cabbage is really sweet and it's actually very good.
Or try 100 cals worth of carrots boiled dry in 100 cals worth of sugar and butter, or broccoli with 100 cals worth of CheezWhiz.
If you like plain boiled vegetables, that would be even better. Heck, you could have 6 cups of cabbage with no butter. Believe me you will not want any more to eat the rest of the night after 6 cups of cabbage. 
The time spent preparing them, versus just reaching for a cookie, also helps a lot.
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Nir
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Posted: 5 November 2009 09:44 pm |
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Evening snacking - I love the topic. Historically it was a serious problem for me - exactly the same as for some of you.
Some people might deal with this problem head-on by having a hard rule about not snacking, but I wanted to continue snacking so I attacked this a different way.
Obviously weight loss or weight maintenance relates to a calorie deficit - which relates to calories eaten and calories burnt. I chose to just focus on the calories eaten part of the equation. Sure, I think exercise is important and I'm active almost every day but my activity does not increase or decrease depending on how much I am eating. I exercise an amount that feels appropriate (avoiding over-training and boredom). Besides I don't do late-night exercise so I wouldn't be able to undo a late-night indulgence. Therefore it follows that I have a fixed calorie target. I know in the morning how many calories I should have eaten by bedtime. And I make it a cast-iron rule to hit my target - even if it feels uncomfortable - even if I am hungry.
Though it turns out that I am not a masocist = so I've learnt to arrange things so that I'm never hungry.
Above, the concept of a cut-off was introduced, in terms of not eating after a certain time, my cut-off is a certain number of calories. This makes more sense to me because weight depends on calorie deficit, I'm sure I could arrange to be in a massive calorie surplus even if I had a rule that I could only have one meal per day and that meal was breakfast :-)
It is possible that I first chanced upon this website because once upon a time I used to allocate myself calories-to-eat depending on the time of day, hence "calories per hour" and I may well have searched for that term in reference to calories-to-eat-per-hour rather than the more common meaning of calories-burnt-per-hour. I used to presume that bedtime was 2am and space out calories eaten accordingly. If I got tired at midnight I'd "splurge" on the remaining calories just before going to bed.
Foods can be compared in a number of ways, for example if you are money-concious you could compare food quantity per unit cost, how cheap food A is compared to food B - how much of food A and food B can you buy for $1 ? which of those servings gives you more pleasure? which of those servings makes you feel more 'full'? That is the sort of budgeting that relates to money and appeals to me as I am commited to living within my means and not getting into debt.
Similarly, as I also have a calorie budget, I have learnt to compare foods by calorie. How much of food A and food B do you get for a certain number of calories (say 100 calories)? which one is more pleasurable? which one makes me feel more 'full'? I find this exercise to be a very powerful tool. It can turn things upside down. Instead of thinking of an irresistable food X, I realise that food X, for a given fixed number of calories, is such a small portion that it is unattractive and I'd much rather spend those calories on something else. If I use lots of food X I'll be going to bed hungry and the lesson will be learnt.
One lesson I've learnt is that there are certain foods that are so dangerous that whilst I'd consider eating them, I would not maintain a large stock of them in my home. These foods, I think of them as "trigger foods" because they've triggered uncontrollable binge-eating in my past, occur in my life in the form of free samples, junk food provision at various events - I do not need to pay for it, there is already too much of it and I do not have it at every opportunity - only sometimes. The key thing for me is to keep it out of home and to keep the portion small. 50-100 calories is probably a good rough guide.
I tend to consider my last meal to be whatever I eat after 7pm and I tend to save at least 500 calories for this meal. Because I don't wish to wake up too many times during the night I happen to have a rule about limiting the weight of the consumed food. This tends to impact on the types of food I select for the evening snacking - to increase their calorie density. For example if I have 500 calories and my weight limit is 350 grams then this dictates an average calorie density of 143 calories per 100g. If I have 1000 calories remaining and the weight limit is 350 grams then we're looking at 286 calories per 100g - this means I'm not eating foods like salad vegetables and fresh fruit but instead nuts and seeds, breads cereals and other grains, dried fruit (and maybe some starchy vegetables and legumes).
However if due to some unusual and rare circumstances I ended up with less than 500 calories left I would indeed stretch them out: sticking to my food weight limit with fewer calories would mean going for lower calorie-density foods so depending on just how many calories I had left this would be starchy vegetables, legumes or even veggies (as per Nancy's method).
Instead of having lots of one time of food, I find that having small portions of lots of different foods to be more satisfying - more interesting - it takes longer to administer and that seems to be a plus. It is also useful to periodically remind myself that I'm supposed to chew my food thoroughly before eating it, instead of just swallowing it! Of course if I'm bored with eating or have other things to do or it's my bedtime then allocating my remaining calories to just one food is precisely what I'll do to get the food over and done with.
Sometimes I'll find myself going to bed immediately after I finished my calories because I've kept myself awake for longer than my body wanted to be just so I could play with food, sometimes it is the other way around - having finished my calories I no longer wish to be awake to avoid the temptation to over-eat. My commitment to meeting my calorie target is strong, and at over 2.5 years (and like this post) quite long.
Cheers.
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Posted: 6 November 2009 02:15 am |
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I used to find that whenever I was eating after dinner and late at night it really wasnt because i was hungry but because i wanted to eat just because snacks are delicious or if i was doing something i always associated with eating.
Watching tv or reading a book are things i used to snack while doing. I realized a lot of the time i just wanted to be like actively eating something it just became part of the activity. What i do now more is i eat dinner around 7:30 and do very light exercise. And when i do sit down to do those things i like to eat during i get myself a glass of ice water or some gum. Ill chew on ice or gum and it helped fight off urges for other things.
Hope this helps, maybe
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pseymour
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Posted: 7 November 2009 07:42 pm |
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Great thread...something I struggle with for sure also. I can do great all day and then for me I know it has to do with watching TV - argh...such a habit! Here are some things that I do with some level of success most of the time. ;)
1. Eat a later dinner(probably highest calorie meal of day)
2. Do plan to eat some type of low-cal sweet for later dessert (100 cal pack, Fiber bar...something like this)
3. Also love the 100 Cal popcorn while watching something on TV
4. I chew lots of gum when I start thinking of eating and I know I'm not really hungry
(yummy fruit flavored kinds) - It does actually seem to help!
5. Really try to remind myself that if I eat tons at night I won't lose weight for the morning (I too like to weigh daily) AND if I power through and don't eat the extra calories - I "may" see a loss.
So much of this is our heads, right? Doh! ;)
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BJD74
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Posted: 7 November 2009 09:43 pm |
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thanks for the input everyone! this week hasnt been too bad for me in the evenings. We eat between 6-7 usually, and I havent locked myself into eating so many calories per meal because im not a planner of meals but I plan them as i go, or at least 30 min out so to try to eat more at dinner would be a spontaneous thing for that day. I do it sometimes, depending on what we are having. :) I wish I could do the gum thing, because i love to chew gum but i have a partial that the gum sticks too, and that is super annoying! :( So, gum isnt an option anymore. If i had hard mints, i would eat them all, because i enjoy them and they would be gone fast! lol
i have tried flavored teas this week, both during the day and at nite. I am also burning fruity flavored incense. I have made myself accountable to D verbally, so he always sais something to me if he sees me going for food. I have had snacks, but this week it was just nuts, popcorn and an 80 cal yogurt.
each day is different, life is different every day, my emotions etc...i am proud of myself for getting thru this week without any serious pitfalls! :)
Hows everyone else doing? :)
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pseymour
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Posted: 7 November 2009 10:08 pm |
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Awesome! I am proud of you too! :) Keep it up - sounds like you have a good plan.
I'm gonna work on a good plan for me this next week as well.
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BJD74
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Posted: 7 November 2009 10:36 pm |
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GO P! You can do it, keep me accountable and I will do the same! :) We Can Do This Baby!!!
That photo is great by the way, what a wonderful motivator! Are they really yours? :) I have gotten rid of most everything, I still have some 14's but they are a stretchy levi low waist bootleg so they shrink up really well each wash, but to bend over in them, or run, they fall off!!!!! I love it! I have myself into a 10 but havent bought any "jeans" yet since im still trying to lose :)
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pseymour
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Posted: 7 November 2009 10:39 pm |
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| LOL Thanks! Yep, knew there was a reason to keep the pants! I've lost 110 lbs - still goin for another 20-30! Yes, we can do it! WooHoo! Enjoy the rest of your weekend!
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Hiker
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Posted: 10 November 2009 04:10 pm |
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Hey BJD, I found this thread you started, great idea. As you know I too struggle with the night time eating. I think my evening situaiton is close to yours, it's really the only time I spend with my husband and so we tend to be watchng TV and/or reading and it is very easy to munch away doing those things.
I have been trying to save a couple hundred calories for my snack but it doesn't always work. Yesterday I ran out of caloires so I allowed my self only fruit for a snack, I figured if I was really hungry that would do it and it did work. Of course I missed my ice cream  , maybe today will go better and I will have those extra calories  .
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BJD74
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Posted: 11 November 2009 02:48 pm |
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thanks hiker! :) i have to watch the fruit too because a few apples a day add up too! It is so easy to add up even when we eat healthy snacks! Nuts and fruits i love them but they can be my worry too! Last nite D gave me a hard time because I was telling myself outloud that i should have passed on the mint shake from Arbys.........and he started telling me that i need to just enjoy that i can handle having one shake and know that I did good all day, even worked out!
I tried to explain to him that I would have such an easy time drinking like 5 of those shakes and he said that its great that i didnt and he wouldnt let me anyway! He told me that I need to look at the POSITIVES in my day and start to appreciate that I am gaining more control of the intake portions etc. He is right. I need to realize that there are some days that I may allow myself to have more sweets than others but that I have yet to really dive in and go nuts. What I feel is NUTS to me, is really not so bad because the way I Used to be is not How I am now. I really have come a long way.
Last nite I did have some pumpkin pie but not even a whole slice. I just had a few small bites with a splash of whip cream. I drank tea the rest of the nite so i would stay away from food.
Today I my first day alone, D went back to work today. He has some voice back and he is eating. I am debating making some soup for him, he seems to be really enjoying the soup. I am ready to rest because I have been doteing on him since Saturday nite! LOL.....guys are such babies when they get sick! lol.....i havent slept or had a minute to myself since Saturday!
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Hiker
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Posted: 12 November 2009 11:11 am |
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BJD, I think D is right, we need to look at what we do right at least as often as we look at what we do wrong. It's funny but we don't treat ourselves they way we would treat others. I bet if you stand back and say if my friend did what I have done in the past year what would I say to her? How proud would I be of what she did? And lastly if she was struggling a bit, what would I tell her? Once you know that maybe you can see it a little differently. I know it's much easier said than done. Maybe to kick start the pat on the back get out an old pair of pants...you know the ones you used to live in because they were the only ones that felt comfortable. Yup, those are the ones. Put them on and take a good look in the mirror. I think that is what D is telling you....you've done good and you are still doing good, not perfect but good. .
As to the night time eating/binging, I am starting to get it under control. Last night after my ice cream (I had enough calories left ) I got the munchies going to I made myself a hot cup of tea and I put some warmed skimmed milk and Splenda in it...it really was a treat because I usually drink it black, this way it was a nice treat and only 45 calories for the milk . As for the fruit....I never have to worry about binging on fruit, I just don't like it all that well but you are right, if it can be a problem for you then it is not a good thing to have when you are tempted.
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BJD74
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Posted: 12 November 2009 04:12 pm |
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hey hiker, some good thoughts there about getting a perspective on the GOOD that I have done. I am proud but regrettful that I have gotten rid of all that old stuff that i grew out of. I have a few 14's that i wear around the house for my chores to get dirty etc....they fall off of me quite nicely ;) i picked up a size 12 capris at the big lots the other day, they had nothing but 12's that is how big lots is though, they get good stuff, but sometimes they get a BULK Of one thing..I havent tried them, but I am sure that they can replace the old ones i have and i can wear them into the next seasons.
i had an excellent day yesterday, foodwise. I did have some chewy gobstoppers, by the handful while i was cleaning, but it was during the day before i got the workout in, so i am not concerned. Its better than chocolate anyway. I do say that i was tempted to eat after dinner though. I made the chicken soup for D and had two average cereal bowls of it with 2 small oranges. The soup was celery, leeks, carrot, about 1/2 cup of rice in the whole bucket, with one chicken breast and 2 patties of cube steak because it had to go! Its ok, nice flavor and light. I just had a bowl for breakfast. But, last nite, D only had one bowl so he munched pretty much till 930pm. It was very hard for me. I had 2 cups of hot tea with sweet n low, no milk. I had one more handful of those gobstoppers but that is all. I tried to eat some almonds, but it was hurting my teeth. After that I just stopped.
I woke with a horrible right temple headache, i am trying to get it gone, but not yet. Its piercing and bothering me alot! :( We have overcast skies today, I just watered the entire yard area, all the back, side and front. It took me 1.5hours and I am chilled, but it had to be done.
I am hopeful that tonite will be an easy nite, I am not sure if MJ is coming home today or not. D isnt sure if he wants her back yet since he is still taking the medication. He has one more day left. Tomorrow MJ has a dentist appt, but my dad told me yesterday she is still coughing alot, so I may reschedule it yet again till she is totally better. I dont want a sick baby.
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Hiker
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Posted: 13 November 2009 12:53 pm |
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| I got the munchies last night and I really wanted something salty...usually I would go for chips or crackers but instead I tried a kosher dill pickle, it did the trick and only 15 calories .
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BJD74
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Posted: 14 November 2009 02:34 pm |
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that is great it worked Hiker! :) I love pickles! I just dont have them that much, oddly enough! :)
last nite, I did ok. I wasnt truelly hungry, and i was kinda down so I just had my tea.
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Dakkota
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Posted: 19 November 2009 01:34 pm |
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Hi Everybody!
I have had that problem all my life until 3 years ago when I learned about Carb Addicts.
It all has to do with too much insulin in your blood stream which produces the cravings for Carbs. The thing is you have to manage when and how you eat carb foods and that regulates how much insulin the pancreas shoots into your digestive system (bloood stream). An excess of insulin in your blood stream avoids another hormone to do it's job, which is to "tell your hunger that it's satisfied".
It's really well explained in the book of Drs. Richard and Rachael F. Heller (google them and you'll find info)...
I can tell you I have been for over 3 years on this way of eating... and that "after dinner muncher monster" magically disappears! And wow... what a relief!
At periods when I decided to stop following the eating plan, for example going away on vacation, I spent a week in London (I live in Spain) and just quit the plan and came back home and didn't start again because I had no cravings and thought everything was ok... but as days went by.... there he was again The Muncher Monster!
So... now I know that if I want to keep him in the shadow, be able to spend hours after dinner watching TV and not jumping up every 5 minutes to the fridge... i need to keep the eating plan for carb addicts.
The plan is not about calorie counting and it's even quite psychologically rewarding and easy to follow because you can eat anything you want BUT in the right meal and time you choose.
This has helped me control the Monster, which is a HUGE life improvement for me, it's a liberation...
But... it really doesn't help me to loose as much weight as I need to lose. For loosing weight i have discovered after many years that you have to learn about nutrition, how body's work and all these things.
That's why I'm finnally loosing weight following an Easy Natural Healthy Weight Loss Guide.
So, combining these 2 plans I'm really on the road to success!
Hope all this is helpful!
Dakkota
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BJD74
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Posted: 19 November 2009 04:06 pm |
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Thanks for the info Dakkota! :) I know how much i have to watch the carbs, but to really follow a plan of how and when to eat them may be an adjustment for me since i am really doing the calorie counting way right now and its working for me. I am curious and will look into this book and appreciate the info!!! :)
Keep us posted on your success!! :)
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