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HeavyLoad79
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Posted: 3 March 2006 01:42 pm |
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Hi,
Is FL4I basically a low carb diet?
Thanks,
HeavyLoad
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yohkos
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Posted: 14 March 2006 12:36 am |
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Yes it does have a lot of protein but does include vegies and fruits. In fact one day is all vegies and fruit....but I have to admit it is more protein than I normally eat it.
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Dobie
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Posted: 16 March 2006 04:20 pm |
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HeavyLoad79 wrote: Hi,
Is FL4I basically a low carb diet?
Thanks,
HeavyLoad
I disagree that it is "basically" a low carb diet. I have seen diets generated with half the meals having carbs.
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Dobie
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Posted: 2 May 2006 09:37 pm |
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We are using bread that still has a bunch of wheat in it because we did not find pure oat flour.
Please tell me, what brands of bread do you guys use? I want to find it, but I need to ask for it by brand and type at the store.
Cheers!
Dobie
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Jayelle
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Posted: 2 May 2006 09:44 pm |
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I use Arnold Classics OatBran bread and it really tastes great. I get it at WalMart super center and Food Lion.
Jayelle
Last edited on 2 May 2006 09:44 pm by Jayelle
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Dobie
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Posted: 3 May 2006 05:38 am |
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Thank you, Jayelle.
Went to Walmart tonight and the did not have it. I will try our SuperCenter and if they don't have it we will have to see if we can order it.
What do others use?
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Jenn
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Posted: 8 May 2006 09:19 pm |
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Dobie, I've been all over the place looking for oat bread...unsuccessfully. I'm going this week sometime to Whole Foods to see if they have it. There's one in Arlington off I-30 and Collins.
Right now, I am using the brand Nature's Own. They have a sugar free wheat bread. I figured that it was my best option. Bought it at Walmart.;)
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Jayelle
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Posted: 9 May 2006 03:02 am |
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This link will help you find the one I use in your area.
arnold.gwbakeries.com/product.cfm/upc/7341001354
Jayelle
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Dobie
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Posted: 9 May 2006 04:43 am |
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 Yup...not in my area.
Thanks, though!
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thumper111
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Posted: 10 May 2006 10:01 pm |
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Hi Dobie,
Saw your post and thought I'd reply. I use Oroweat Oat Bran Bread, which is the same as Arnold. Just fyi Amazon.com sells this bread. Just type in Oat Bran bread. It's $2.89 per loaf. I'm not sure it's worth the shipping etc, but I thought it was kind of neat they sold bread.
Thumper
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Dobie
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Posted: 11 May 2006 06:45 pm |
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That it neat! I order there a few times a year and next time I will add this of for the free shipping! :)
Thanks, Thumper
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Jayelle
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Posted: 16 May 2006 08:39 pm |
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DOBIE, UUUUUUURRRRRRGGGGGG, I went out on yesterday to get some more bread and neither of the (2) stores on my route home had oatbran bread. They both has oatnut bread. I tried this one before and did not like it as much.
WHAT TO DO!?!?!?! I bought a whole grain bread that tastes okay. I just didn't want to go across town only to discover that I couldn't get any.
This just sucks,
Jayelle
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Dobie
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Posted: 17 May 2006 03:28 am |
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Jayelle wrote: DOBIE, UUUUUUURRRRRRGGGGGG, I went out on yesterday to get some more bread and neither of the (2) stores on my route home had oatbran bread. They both has oatnut bread. I tried this one before and did not like it as much.
WHAT TO DO!?!?!?! I bought a whole grain bread that tastes okay. I just didn't want to go across town only to discover that I couldn't get any.
This just sucks,
Jayelle
I found out that Whole Foods has all kinds of bread in their freezer section including oat bran, so we are going to check it out.
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brandie
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Posted: 17 May 2006 05:46 am |
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Hello all! New to this diet. I am on day 8. tomorrow is my veggie day. I need to lose 10 pounds. that is my goal with this diet. I did weight watchers for a while and had much success. I just want to try something new. I think this is wonderful because I don't have constant sugar cravings I am used to having when I eat them in moderation. After 5 days, those cravings went away. I can honestly say that I can refuse food more easily when I am not hungry, something I have always struggled with.
The main reason I am writing is to ask a few questions and hope someone may have an answer for me. On any given day, can I substitute one protein for another? Like if one of my meals for the day is halibut and walnuts, can I substitute chicken for the fish even though it is not incorporated into any of my other meals for the day? Has anyone tried this and been successful?
Also, How is this diet different from Atkins? I feel I am eating a loooot of meat, eggs and cheese! It's okay, but I am a huge vegetable person.
Thanks in advance if anyone reads my post.
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Jayelle
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Posted: 17 May 2006 08:02 pm |
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hi Brandie, I have subbed with no problems. It is my thinking that its the type of food ie car/protein that is the key, not so much what the actually food item is.
I say give it a try and see what it does for you. NO matter what you have to remember that everyone is different and food affects us all differently. You have to find out what works for you specifically.
Hope this helps,
Jayelle
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yohkos
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Posted: 17 May 2006 10:58 pm |
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Jenn,
Have you checked krogers? I think Sara Lee makes it. Let us know if you find it at Whole Foods. I don't live too far from there.
Thanks,
Kim
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Dobie
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Posted: 18 May 2006 06:59 pm |
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I agree and have substituted approved protein for approved protein and same with carbs without seeing a problem. The only danger (though you will find you need to occasionally do it) is unapproved foods that you will want to substitute.
For example, to take my wife out for Mothers day, we substitued roast beef and shrimp for steak and shrimp and we ate the salad (veggies only). We had to pick lean beef, but I think it worked out.
Dobie
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thumper111
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Posted: 19 May 2006 07:39 pm |
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Hi Brandie,
I subbed my eggs out during the latter part of my first 11 days. It didn't seem to affect anything at all.
Thumper
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Yedda_2000
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Posted: 3 June 2006 03:25 pm |
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I lost 15 lbs the first three cycles, but during the fourth, I only had 2 lbs loss, and now I'm on day 4 of the fifth cycle, which is a fruit and veggie day, and the scale hasn't budged since the end of the three day cheat.
I feel like I'm starting to lose this battle. How can I jump this plateau and keep from giving up?
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Jayelle
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Posted: 3 June 2006 09:01 pm |
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Hi Yedda. I know how you feel about having hit a plateau. I seem to have done the same. I am attempting a newer motified way of eating that allows to eat 5 times day and its more predetermined portions.
I have to try to bust through this and get the progression started again.
Maybe you can be more careful of your portions and add a small bit of 'extra' walking or other exercise to your daily plan. Are you doing the walking? If so how much each day? Are you getting your heart rate up enough to get the full benefits from it?
These are just a couple of things to watch. Also, I don't know what version you are following (and I know that IPD is not calorie based) but maybe you can select more foods that are not as calorie laden. NO matter how we trick our systems (ie. protein/carb rotation) weight loss is a result of more calories expended than consumed.
Don't give up on losing. Try to bust through this plateau and come out on the lighter side.:D
Jayelle
Last edited on 4 June 2006 09:12 pm by Jayelle
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Yedda_2000
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Posted: 4 June 2006 07:35 pm |
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Half hour walk to work, passing everyone else on the sidewalk.
Full day at work siting at a 72 inch wide loom, continuously moving my arms and feet to run the loom, which can work up quite a sweat. (Basically bending, stretching, lifting, pulling - all day)
Half hour walk home, again very speedy.
I've always been a fast walker, though, and can walk for hours with the only sign that I need to stop being my sore feet, so maybe I need to work harder to raise my heart rate to the right level.
In any case, I'm pretty sure I burn more calories than I eat.
I'm not eating too much at each meal. I know what it feels like to be totally full, and this ain't it, and I like to eat slowly, to give myself time to know if I'm still hungry or not.
I drink about 100 oz of water every day, and change my food choices each cycle. (still doing one food each meal, although I did manage to get the login to the new diet)
I try to keep up the water during the three day break, and eat some healthy, full meals, as well a treat or two like pizza, or a cinnabon. I can usually lose the cheat weight in the first day back, but then I'm at a stand still.
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Jayelle
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Posted: 4 June 2006 09:16 pm |
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Hi again Yedda. It certainly sounds like you are doing all the right things to lose weight. Way to go!! The only other thing that comes to mind is how close are you to your 'ideal weight'? I have read that it is tougher to lose as you get closer to your ideal body weight. Could that be a contributor in your recent slow progress?
I think that is what is plaguing my losses. The last ten pounds just seem to want to stick around when the others were so willing to go.:P I am happy to have lost the weight that I have lost but am ever more eager to get rid of the rest.
How much weight do you want to lose? How close are you to your goal?
Jayelle
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Yedda_2000
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Posted: 6 June 2006 06:04 pm |
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My weight right now is around 197. My medicaly recomended ideal weight is 135 - 175 lbs. I'd love to get to 150 eventually. I'm 5 foot 11, 26yrs in October.
Right now my goal is 180, so I'm about half way there from my start weight of 214. Maybe I've got a stress induced stuborn fat problem, or something. I'm lucky enough to have always carried my extra pounds rather well, generally just getting curvier in the naturally curvy areas.
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Jayelle
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Posted: 6 June 2006 06:28 pm |
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You are tall!!! I am 5'9" and aiming for 145. I haven't been able to get closer than 151 lately. I was 145 about 4 years ago, but much more toned than I am now as I weight trained 4 times a week in addition to cardio 5-6 times a week. I had no problem eating whatever then. Not now.  I don't have the time to devote to that level of exercise these days so I have relied on dietary changes for my once 185 lb weight problem.
As I have said I am around 151 now (depending on the day) and would like to get to 145, and achieve more tone. I started to incorporate a small bit of toning exercises to my routine but have recently had a small set back. A nasty fall has me with a limp and slightly out of commission for a few days.
My goal was to be back @ 145 and in my size 8s before one of my Best friend's wedding. July 29th. I still think I'll make it!
7-8 lbs to go. I can do that!
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Yedda_2000
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Posted: 6 June 2006 08:51 pm |
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I was 150 at the same height I am now, 7 years ago. I miss being a teenager! I miss being a size 8!
I guess it took me 7 years to put on 65 lbs. That's 9lbs a year. I'm losing faster than it took to put on the weight, at least.
Somehow it seems that the longer you've had the fat, the more it wants to stick around.
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kaosbeach
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Posted: 12 June 2006 02:56 am |
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Hi there,
Just wondering how many of you out there have tried the new version and if you find the plan works as well.
If there are people out there on the plan and would like to share there experience, I would love to hear back from you
I start the plan on June 19th and will be posting as I go along.
Carrie
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lovethe80s
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Posted: 12 June 2006 08:22 pm |
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Hi. I am new to the forum.
I tried this diet last year and it did work, but was unable to stay on it for a long time.
Anyway, I am trying it again. More so because I need to lose some quick weight for my upcoming trip to Mexico.
A few questions -
1. Can you eat Salmon under the "fish fillet" category? In the past, I only used to eat Tilopia, but I love Salmon now and I know it is one of the fattier fish.
2. The bun debate - can you eat a bun with the hot dog and/or hamburger? If Hot Dog was on my menu, I usually ate 1 with a bun and then 1 or 2 more w/o.
3. F/V day - can you eat potatoes with the veggies? I don't think so but wanted to know what other do.
Any answers appreciated. :)
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thumper111
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Posted: 12 June 2006 10:52 pm |
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Hello,
I ate salmon and it didn't hurt my weight loss at all.
You can definitely eat the bun with the hamburger or hotdog. But only one bun - I know people who've put 2 hotdogs on their bun and been ok, but the ones who snuck in an extra bun paid the price.
I use potatoes on my fruit/vege day although I don't think you're supposed to. I just mash them with a little fat free or 1% milk, no butter. Then I put some stir fried (in a non-stick pan with a little olive oil) red and green pepper and onions on top. I eat this with peas and it's very good.
I'm averaging 8 pounds for every 11 days so I must be doing something right
Thumper
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lovethe80s
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Posted: 12 June 2006 11:15 pm |
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| Thanks for the info. I'm only on day 2 of my 1st round (this year). I need to lose about 30, but will settle for 20. And I will be thrilled if I can lose 12 by July 6th when I leave for vacation.
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hgb
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Posted: 15 June 2006 06:04 am |
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Thumper-- and anyone else-- what did you substitute for the "Omelette" meal? My notes say I can have veggies and meats in the omelette, but I'm having guests for dinner that night, and I need to eat something a little more group friendly. Any ideas on an approved sub? Would meat and veggies work? Or do I need to add a little fat?
Any ideas are greatly appreciated!
HGB
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luce2626
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Posted: 15 June 2006 11:07 pm |
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 Could anyone help me with recipes for flavouring up chicken??
Also the days when it says i am allowed a hot dog or hamburger am i right in thinking that it is without the bread ??
 thanks luce xx
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hgb
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Posted: 16 June 2006 02:57 am |
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I've got houseguests and we are going out to dinner tonight, i'm really concerned because my only meal left is "Omelette" which can include veggies and meats (my other meals today were fruit and cottage cheese). I know I wont' be able to get anything like an omelette at the restaurant (Though I have my choice of places to go eat). What is a legal substitute? Fish and veggies?
Help!!
Thanks
HGB
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Dobie
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Posted: 19 June 2006 06:32 pm |
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There are not "approved" subs. It is us experimenting to see what works. Sorry to not be more helpful.
What did you end up doing?
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eleaner
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Posted: 19 June 2006 08:43 pm |
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| I have started this plan today as well. I keep reading about the "old plan" and want to know how it compares to the one I am doing. Good luck with your weight loss.
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kaosbeach
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Posted: 19 June 2006 08:50 pm |
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I have heard good and bad things about the plan vs. the old.People have said the new plan offers some better foods and combining,but tI have also read that some feel it does not work as well as the old plan.
Oh well ,Im trying the new plan and am very excited about it.
Good luck to you and keep me posted as to how you are doing. Knowing me as well as I do I will weigh in quite often as I have such a passionate affair with my scale!!!
I am also planning on mountain biking about 15k at least 3 nites a week.
Carrie
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hgb
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Posted: 20 June 2006 05:47 am |
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Dobie-
Thanks for the response. Yeah, I realize there are no "approved substitutions" -- I guess I meant "approved" in that they would be foods that are allowed on the diet in general that would be a carb/protein/fat match for the omelet I would be subbing out. Anyway, I ended up ordering a mixed seafood grill-- it was scallops, halibut and shrimp with squash and other veggies in a lemon sauce. So basically a protein and light carb meal. I seemed to have had no ill effects-- that was on Thursday (day 4 of this cycle) and I'm now on day 8 and am down 8 pounds so far! We'll see what that really shakes out to be after the cheat days, of course. Hope everything is going well with you. H
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eleaner
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Posted: 20 June 2006 04:48 pm |
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I started the diet yesterday. I followed it exactly and drank 101 oz of water. I am very excited about this. My problem is that I leave for a family reunion on Friday which is only day 5. We won't come back until day day 10. There is no way I will be able to follow the diet. We will also be going to Sea World and celebrating my baby's first birthday. My question is do I try to follow it when I can, stop completely and start over when I return, WHAT do I do? Help please.
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kaosbeach
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Posted: 20 June 2006 07:37 pm |
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I found the diet a week or so ago and I was going away to the lake for 4 days so I opted to wait for yesterday to start,and just a thought but its better to follow a program to the tee than start and stop. try to watch yourself over the next week,and make some healthy choices and when you are back to your dailey routine start theIPD clean.
Good luck in what ever choice you make:D
Carrie
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eleaner
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Posted: 20 June 2006 08:16 pm |
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summer is always hard for me to have time for things like this. I teach, so during the summer I visit all those I can't during the year. I don't know if I will be home for 11 consecutive days. I didn't want to keep putting off so I guess we will see how it works. I figure it is better to do something instead of nothing.
Good luck to you too. Day 2 and I am still motivated. I just got back from working out. I have reached that point where I have told myself, "enough is enough". Hopefully I will see some results. I have about 50 lbs I would like to lose but anything will be exciting!
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kaosbeach
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Posted: 20 June 2006 08:32 pm |
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All the best to you in your journey....this is day 2 for me as well.
Let me know how your doing from time 2 time:)
Carrie
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dawgfan1
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Posted: 20 June 2006 11:08 pm |
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| If you know you're going to be gone during an 11 day cycle, you might try using your cheat days interspersed instead of at the end of 11 days. I don't know if that will affect your weight loss or not. After the first cycle for me, I thought I might try to split it up so I would follow 4 days diet, 1 cheat day, 3 diet days, 1 cheat day, 4 diet days, 1 cheat day and see how that might work.
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dawgfan1
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Posted: 20 June 2006 11:21 pm |
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I use montreal chicken seasoning, salt and pepper to taste, and garlic, sprinkled on top of chicken breast or tenders in a casserole dish, add a small amount of chicken broth and bake at 350 for 30-45 minutes. It is yummy!
Also, one of the allowed condiments is BBQ sauce, so you could brush a little of this on the chicken and cook the same way.
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kaosbeach
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Posted: 20 June 2006 11:57 pm |
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Try marinating the chicken in lemon juice,garlic and greek seasoning
Carrie
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Jayelle
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Posted: 21 June 2006 05:58 am |
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Eleaner, first of all welcome to the forum and to IPD. Now, I think you've already answered your own question. When you said 'My problem is that I leave for a family reunion on Friday which is only day 5. We won't come back until day day 10. There is no way I will be able to follow the diet.'
This is no way to go in to a new way of eating. You are already telling yourself and the rest of us you will fail. Please don't do this to yourself. Start the diet when you can devote time to it. This way of eating is strict and requires prepartion and discipline.
My advice would be to go on with your vacation and start anew when you return from your vacation.
Good Luck,
Jayelle
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Peter
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Posted: 22 June 2006 07:29 am |
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Ah, family reunions. Be sure to check it out with the calories burned calculator! ;)
Peter
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SusieK
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Posted: 26 June 2006 11:30 am |
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I'm a new Idiot, and just about to begin the 11-day cycle.
Living in France, I've no idea where to find oat bread. Does anybody know of a recipe, preferably suitable for baking in a bread machine, please?
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Pennant
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Posted: 27 June 2006 12:46 am |
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Does anyone know it you can substitute cod for halibut or flounder on the Idiot Proof Diet? Love this plan!
Thanks!
Pennant
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LisaNator
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Posted: 27 June 2006 10:52 pm |
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Well this Saturday I have to attend my cousin's graduation party, and I'm currently involved in the idiot proof diet. The food that will be served there will probably consist of heros, hamburgers and hot dogs.. My family is the type of family that would force you to eat a hamburger or something, so I'm really not sure what to do..
What do most of you do when you have to attend a party and it doesn't have the same food that there is on the menu for the idiot proof diet?
:D
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nevd
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Posted: 28 June 2006 03:39 pm |
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One day shouldn't make that much difference in the greater scheme of things.
Just take care of portion control and enjoy the day.
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stephknowles
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Posted: 29 June 2006 05:24 pm |
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| I know it may sound silly, but can you bring your own food? i'm going to a july 4th party this weekend, and i'm just going to bring my own lunch.
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