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Taion
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 Posted: 2 September 2008 07:04 pm
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Ok well I went to a doctor  for a little help with my diet and he have me the usually eat more vegetables and basically less of everything else.

But what   is to much and what is to little, everytime I try a diet I end up being hungry all day and then I end up overeating the next. I don't know when to stop and when to start

 

I am 18 stone, 5 feet and 8 inches tall, I have a rather broad build and am female.

I got to the gym a miniumum of 3 times a week, only started recently so I can't go for to long, usually I do 20 minutes on the cross trainer burning 200 calories, then 10 on the bike burning between 80-100 calories, then another ten on the rowing machine burning about 70-100. The I got to the weights section and do 100 leg lifts with 80kg of weight, 200 crunches with 25kg of weight, 25 chest presses with 25kg of weight.

The I go home and try to clean for at least one hour usually just doing the dishes, washing up.

Then I do yoga for half an hour.

I have a thyriod problem that was only found out about, about one week ago, and the tablets don't take effect for 3 months.

I am also allergic to wheat, caffine and diary.

 

I am seriously sick of not losing any weight it's not like i'm lazing around! So can someone help me out and tell me how much I am supposed to eat a day, give me some meal ideas, i'm ok for breakfast I always have porridge but what then?

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 Posted: 2 September 2008 07:37 pm
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Assuming your age to be 25, your unadjusted RMR would be 1937. It would be higher if you're younger, or lower if you're older. You can use the calculator here to get the most accurate number for your age.

Regardless, your unadjusted RMR is generally the minimum number of calories you should eat per day. Since you still have a decent deal of weight to lose, you can probably eat up to 75% less than this number, which in the above case would be 1452.

Fiber can help to curb your appetite. Veggies do have some, but not as much as grains, which you can't eat. You might want to consider taking a fiber supplement. Many people have claimed that protein helps to curb their appetite, so you could try that. Make sure you drink enough water, which can also act as an appetite suppressant.

You should be able to work around the dairy, by trying rice milk or soy milk. I don't think they have dairy, but I'm not positive.

Do you eat plenty of fruit? Fruit is also a good source of fiber, as well as energy. Also, since you can't eat wheat, and your body needs carbs, fruit is probably the next best thing.

Sorry I can't be of more help. Good luck! :smile:

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 Posted: 3 September 2008 04:35 am
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I strongly recommend that you give yourself a break until the thyroid meds take effect. Cause no matter what you do right now, it will not work for you with a thyroid problem.

Trust me, I know. I had already lost 40lbs, then suddenly started to gain it back. I was starving myself. (because I didn't want to be fat again). Needless to say it was my thyroid. After the meds took effect, I lost 5 to 7lbs just taking them and nothing else.

So, keep up what your doing, but don't expect much until you get the thyroid under control.

You will start to feel better before three months, I did. Heck, one day I did more stuff around the house then I had done in the last whole year. You will be amazed at how much your attitude will change also. You won't feel depressed, tired, or crazy anymore. I really thought at times I was going crazy.

So, I hope this helps you, and lets you know your not alone.

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 Posted: 3 September 2008 01:07 pm
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CrimsonAnimus wrote: Fiber can help to curb your appetite. Veggies do have some, but not as much as grains

Depends on your perspective!

Kellog's All Bran - Bran Flakes: 100g is 326 calories and 15g fibre.
Boiled green beans: 100g is 26 calories and 4.1g fibre.
Raspberries: 100g is 25 calories and 2.5g fibre.
red kidney beans: 100g is 93 calories and 6.2g fibre.

So it looks like grains have more fibre, right?




Er, not the way I look at it. Let's look at a 100 calorie serving. A 'one 100 calorie pack' if you will:

red kidney beans: 6.7g fibre
bran flakes: 4.6g fibre
raspberries: 10g fibre
boiled green beans: 15.8g fibre

You see, grains only looked good because you were considering a high-calorie serving! Generally, calorie for calorie, vegetables win by a mile.

And vegetables (even potatos - baked or boiled) keep you full with fewer calories.

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 Posted: 3 September 2008 05:33 pm
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Good point, Nir! I didn't consider calorie for calorie.

Because veggies are so low in calories, generally, you can eat many more to help you feel full, with less calories than fiber from other sources.

Potatoes are yummy. Too bad I can't behave in their presence. :tongue:

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 Posted: 3 September 2008 06:36 pm
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Don't feel bad, I can't handle potatoes either. I love them to much and always over do it with them.

So, now I only get them once a month if even that. :sad:

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 Posted: 4 September 2008 07:23 pm
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as for the wheat allergy, look for products that are gluten free.  my patients w/ celiac disease cant eat wheat and other grains and there tons of gluten free products.

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 Posted: 4 September 2008 07:45 pm
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Wow, there are a lot of medical personnel on here. What an asset. :smile:

Taion
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 Posted: 4 September 2008 09:45 pm
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Thank you all for your responses.

Your advice was very useful and it was nice to know someone who understands just how much of a pain a thyriod problem can be.

So again thank you all for taking time to respond to this :D

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 Posted: 5 September 2008 04:01 am
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May I ask, what did they put you on? Just curious cause different meds effect people in different ways. Also, was curious if your cholesterol is normal. Just wondering, cause I never had a problem with mine until the thyroid thing. But, I do know that is not the case for everyone with thyroid problems.

Taion
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 Posted: 6 September 2008 04:43 pm
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They put me on kelp tablets, and if they don't work for me they said they would put me onto levothyroxine tablets . The docotor never tested my cholesterol he just said it was probably high because of my weight.

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 Posted: 6 September 2008 07:50 pm
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Taion wrote: The docotor never tested my cholesterol he just said it was probably high because of my weight.
Eh?!? :shock:

Taion
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 Posted: 6 September 2008 10:00 pm
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I know he is a very unrealiable, I had to battle for years before I found out eveuntally that I had a thyriod I had to pay to go private for tests to! he just kept telling me to eat less, stop eating "pies" and don't be lazy and to go away and come back in a month if I had lost any weight. I am switching GPs so I will never get him again.

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 Posted: 6 September 2008 10:35 pm
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Oh lawd! LOL

Good call. I hope your next doctor is a little more...attentive.

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 Posted: 4 October 2008 01:29 pm
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Using  http://www.nutritiondata.com/tools/nutrient-search one can search for foods high or low in nutrients, per gram or per calorie.

This ( http://www.nutritiondata.com/foods-000006000000000000000.html ) is the result for a earch of foods with lots of fibre per 200 calories.

Whilst vegetables are right up there, I was surprised to find that two choices, "Kellog's all bran with extra fiber" and "General Mill's Fiber One" are in the top five.

It is a fun tool to use.

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 Posted: 4 October 2008 03:55 pm
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If you have a thyroid problem, then your chances of losing weight before the meds kick in are slim.

I was starving myself and gaining weight, before I found out about mine. After the meds. kicked in I lost weight without even trying and then even more when I started to diet and exercise again.  

So, give yourself a break untill that medicine take effect...

ps: Just curious, how's your cholesterol? Just wondering cause I have had problems with that also, since the thyroid thing. But, I know that is not the case for everyone...  


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